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Friends, normally I don't "name names" on Quivering Daughters. As my FAQ states, I believe for the purposes of this blog it distracts from hurting souls to make it a point to highlight particular teachers and ministries. But my heart is broken today. And sometimes not naming names leads to hurting souls. I have prayed that Michael and Debi Pearl's ministry No Greater Joy would show compassion upon a little girl who was murdered by those who were devoted followers of their writings. True, NGJ is not directly responsible. But the teaching that influenced the parents of Lydia Schatz has proven itself more than once to result in death. Please, please, please hold them accountable for their teaching! And if not for their teaching, then for the lack of compassion towards those who raise very legitimate concerns . . . and furthermore, for the family which is now in pieces.

*Edited to add: when followers adopt teaching and misunderstand or misapply the message to the point of a little girl's death, the message needs to be adjusted. Amended. Re-communicated. We need to see humility, not mockery.

Link: Michael Pearl Laughs at Critics


  1. "And whoever receives one such child in My name receives Me; but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a heavy millstone hung around his neck, and to be drowned in the depth of the sea." -- Jesus (Matthew 18:5-6)

    I don't think anything has made me this furious since the time I watched a documentary on Jim Jones. "By their fruits you shall know them" indeed.

  2. Wow, I want to cry now, too. That is one of the sickest things I have ever read. God have mercy. I remember someone gave my parents a copy of To Train Up a Child when I was in my teens (with many much younger siblings) and even with their firm belief in corporal punishment, they thought that book was very extreme.

  3. Reading his cruel taunt last night sent me into a fit of tears. Truly one of the most heartless things I've ever read....and then Amen chorus underneath...may God have mercy on them.

  4. for some reason my mind went straight to the scene where the god stops abraham from taking isaacs life. i know thats a sacrificial picture but maybe the ideas are related? wouldnt the same god stop parents from doing things that kill their children in his name now as well?

  5. Wow. I am stunned--at the end of his note about laughing, he says they also beat the dogs with the pipe. They beat their children and their dogs with the same instrument? And he thinks this is a good thing? I am sick over this whole thing.

  6. When I read Michael Pearl's arrogant response to what he refers to as his "critics" yesterday, I became physically ill. I thought to myself, Michael Pearl is insufferable. How wrong to bring up the plastic whip, to relate it to his dogs and chickens, and children? He shows absolutely no remorse. No clarifications. Just arrogance. At first, I thought he will answer someday to his God, you know!

    This morning when I awoke this was still on my mind. I thought to myself, how many more children must die because of this man who looks like Santa Claus, teachings? Then anger started to rise up in me. I thought, "You've got to be kidding me! The ONLY good citizens, the only good employers, the only good anybodies will be those trained by the Pearl method?"

    Arrogance indeed. It would be pitiful if it weren't so deadly in its application. Because his arrogant confidence is what makes so many insecure parents believe he must be right, because he claims this is God's way.

    A lot of laughing at the pearl home....funny, I don't hear the dead children laughing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQeY8t7q_i8&feature=related

    I entertained thoughts such as, "If I were to ever see him using that 1/4 inch plumbing supply line on a dog, I would choke him. And on a child?! Oh, he wouldn't be laughing ever again!"


    I called the Paradise Police Department. I called the Butte County District Attorneys office. I told them about his laughing. I faxed Butte County District Attorney's office a copy of Pearls latest blog post. After several hours of chasing down what county in Tennessee he truly lives in and found that the Centerville, TN Sheriff office covers the area the Pearls live. Pearl ADMITS to beating his dog, they could at least arrest him for that. I spoke at length to the Deputy, educating him about Pearl, directed him to their own web site, he got online, was appalled, he claims he did not know about the Schatz case. I gave him the phone numbers of the Paradise PD and Butte County District Attorney's office.

    "Even my chickens are laughing . . . well, actually it more like cackling, because they just laid another organic egg for my breakfast and they know that it was that same piece of ¼ inch plastic supply line that trained the dogs not to eat chicken...." Then, Michael Pearl has the audacity to advertise his book , "Get your own copy of TO TRAIN UP A CHILD, and find out what all the squawking is about."

    I am not naive. I know that one phone call will most likely not make Centerville, Sheriff do a thing. However, if anyone else that may be interested in "encouraging" the paradise Police and Butte County DA's office as well as Pearls hometown Sheriff department, here are the phone numbers for such "encouragement." There is strength in numbers. Let's see if we cannot, at least. close down Pearls for now for animal abuse. I know this is upside down, but, at least no more children would die. Maybe the Butte County DA can find someway to try the Pearls with Reckless Homicide, child endangerment, or something.

    Town of Paradise Police

    5595 Black Olive Dr
    Paradise, CA 95969
    530-872-6241 non-emergency

    Butte County District Attorney's Office
    Butte County District Attorney
    25 County Center Drive
    Oroville, California 95965


    Michael Ramsey is the District Attorney

    Phone Numbers:
    Phone .......................(530) 538-7411
    Fax .......................... (530) 538-7071

    Centerville TN Sheriff 118 Church Street, Centerville, TN - (931) 729-6143

  7. I am embarrassed & sorry that I once bought into this type of "training" rather abuse. I am glad that there are people out there speaking out against the Pearls teaching. The Pearls make it difficult to love, forgive, and pray for them with their awful attitudes towards these horrific tragedies. I will pray & sing hymns!

  8. Wow! This is so totally heartbreaking. Thank you for bringing it to out attention. I am in shock...been reading some of the links you put there and following it where it goes. It brings tears to my eyes.

  9. That couple claims you will see their children in the world doing A, B, and C due to their teachings. I hope they grow up to learn about compassion, empathy, and how mocking is sin.

    This couple truly needs a taste of the real world. I pray for them because I do think they need work on their heart. They sound so angry all the time.

  10. I cannot believe what I just read!!! Gee!!!! I just cannot comment I am so angry.

  11. I know ~ it's so sad. :-(


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